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Posted: Tue May 6th, 2008 12:05 pm |
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you fucking know it
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Posted: Tue May 6th, 2008 12:06 pm |
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He would get my vote.
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Posted: Tue May 6th, 2008 12:43 pm |
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| Has he taken up office yet?Has he made any changs yet?
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Posted: Tue May 6th, 2008 02:45 pm |
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| I saw him on Have I got news for you once, he was funny as you like, as for PM not sure tbh...
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Posted: Tue May 6th, 2008 02:46 pm |
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I emailed him this morning to ask when he'd open bus lanes to motorcyclists - he said it was a 'no brainer' and is the main reason he got my vote. I'll let you know if I get a reply.
Might be an idea for any other London dwellers to do the same:
mayor@london.gov.uk
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Posted: Tue May 6th, 2008 04:22 pm |
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what, like the routemasters he's gonna reintroduce?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/apr/14/charliebrooker.boris
some people need their voting rights removed
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Posted: Tue May 6th, 2008 05:06 pm |
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dooley wrote:
some people need their voting rights removed
Jaysus! What a statement........
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Posted: Tue May 6th, 2008 06:50 pm |
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I love Charlie Brooker, but when it comes to transport and travel policy - the main issues in which I'm interested - I won't be taking any pointers from a man who only ever uses public transport and couldn't give a fuck about cars or bikes.
Not interested in cars or bikes? How can anyone thus be trusted?Last edited on Tue May 6th, 2008 06:50 pm by kraftwerk
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Posted: Wed May 7th, 2008 01:46 am |
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And so politics in the UK enters the new low! The only alternative to a manipulating conniving git is a tousle haired public school pratt of the highest order. Welcome back to the days of rule by the old school tie! jees.
In my humble opinion, the best thing would be for the nation to send a real message to the self serving pratts of whatever party, by not voting en masse at the next election. If the turn out was so low that only party aparatchiks voted then maybe just maybe they'd get the message that the country was heartily sick of of the bickering, point scoring, insulting farce that politics in this nation has become. There's nothing to choose anymore. For the first time in my 40 years I have come to the conclusion that not to vote is a valid political choice. And that for me is a sad realisation.
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Posted: Wed May 7th, 2008 02:05 am |
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nickwiz wrote: And so politics in the UK enters the new low! The only alternative to a manipulating conniving git is a tousle haired public school pratt of the highest order. Welcome back to the days of rule by the old school tie! jees.
In my humble opinion, the best thing would be for the nation to send a real message to the self serving pratts of whatever party, by not voting en masse at the next election. If the turn out was so low that only party aparatchiks voted then maybe just maybe they'd get the message that the country was heartily sick of of the bickering, point scoring, insulting farce that politics in this nation has become. There's nothing to choose anymore. For the first time in my 40 years I have come to the conclusion that not to vote is a valid political choice. And that for me is a sad realisation.
works for the Chinese..... sort of.............
You know what they call non-voters, don't you..... the disenfranchised.
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Posted: Wed May 7th, 2008 02:16 am |
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But thats different. They don't have the right to vote. We have nothing worth voting for. If we continue to use or right to vote we continue to give mandate to the dickheads that currently walk our corridors of power. Its time to point out to them that enough is enough. Until they raise their game we will not mandate their stupidity.
Remember I'm an insomniac in the UK. personaly I think things may be deifferent over there. But right now in the UK politics is a bankrupt self serving mess.
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Posted: Wed May 7th, 2008 06:28 am |
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| Not voting is not an option. If you think there's no point in voting, then the only option is to put yourself forward as a candidate.
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Posted: Wed May 7th, 2008 07:18 am |
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kraftwerk wrote: Not voting is not an option. If you think there's no point in voting, then the only option is to put yourself forward as a candidate.
Exactly. By abstaining, do you really think anyone cares?
Whether a candidate wins by 100 votes or 100 000, it's the result that counts.
Cast your mind back to last year's elections- was the turn out higher or lower than average? See?
No one would know without checking, so what kind of statement does that make about not voting?
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Posted: Wed May 7th, 2008 07:40 am |
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i meant what i said about it being an idiots election - turnout was up on last year (hence boris getting in) and the bnp are in the gla
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Posted: Wed May 7th, 2008 08:07 am |
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kraftwerk wrote: Not voting is not an option. If you think there's no point in voting, then the only option is to put yourself forward as a candidate.
Oh please! With what financial backing? With what support? Be real. If, as I do, you think there is no one worth my vote what option do I have aside from the unrealistic option of standing for election?
And why would I stand for election to have my every move, foible etc dissected by a permanently hostile press? To put my nearest and dearest through the meatgrinder that is the media scrum?
No I believe I have a right to expect more from people who are paid very highly to represent me.
In the local elections, not one candidate came to my door. Infact the only party that actualy bothered to even leaflet my house was the Fascist BNP!!!! Please tell me why I should mandate anyone to represent me when they can't even be bothered to talk to talk to me?
No Vote is a valid option. It sends a message that we have lost confidence in this shower of idiots. Almost everyone I talk to has lost faith in the current political parties. To continue to vote is to continue to let them think they are relevant and to preserve the status quo. Its time for a change. A percentage turnout in the single figures would send an unequivocal message that the people who claim leadership, and the right to represent us no longer have that right. It might force a real taking stock and a shift in the kind of crap political conformity that we currently have.
No Vote is a valid choice nowadays.
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Posted: Wed May 7th, 2008 08:11 am |
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Another four years of Ken was unacceptable - his arrogance could just no longer be tolerated. Paddick's not an option; mostly, for me, down to the fact that he said (I'm paraphrasing) 'I look forward to the day when a private vehicle is seen as socially unacceptable'. Boris says he'll open bus lanes to motorcycles. X marks the spot. We'll see.
As for the BNP - well, anyone who votes for them needs boiling. A hateful, horrible party, appealing to thick, narrow-minded bigots.
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Posted: Wed May 7th, 2008 08:20 am |
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nickwiz wrote: kraftwerk wrote: Not voting is not an option. If you think there's no point in voting, then the only option is to put yourself forward as a candidate.
Oh please! With what financial backing? With what support? Be real. If, as I do, you think there is no one worth my vote what option do I have aside from the unrealistic option of standing for election?
And why would I stand for election to have my every move, foible etc dissected by a permanently hostile press? To put my nearest and dearest through the meatgrinder that is the media scrum?
No I believe I have a right to expect more from people who are paid very highly to represent me.
In the local elections, not one candidate came to my door. Infact the only party that actualy bothered to even leaflet my house was the Fascist BNP!!!! Please tell me why I should mandate anyone to represent me when they can't even be bothered to talk to talk to me?
No Vote is a valid option. It sends a message that we have lost confidence in this shower of idiots. Almost everyone I talk to has lost faith in the current political parties. To continue to vote is to continue to let them think they are relevant and to preserve the status quo. Its time for a change. A percentage turnout in the single figures would send an unequivocal message that the people who claim leadership, and the right to represent us no longer have that right. It might force a real taking stock and a shift in the kind of crap political conformity that we currently have.
No Vote is a valid choice nowadays.
Lots of people stand on next-to-zero budget. There were maybe a dozen options on the ballot paper, only a handful of any profile. You don't need financial backing to stand. Or, and I'm just putting this out there, you could actually get off your arse and secure financial backing if your ideas and policies were worth supporting. That's how it works.
And to expect, in this day and age, every candidate to knock on your door is a bit off. There are far more effective ways of engaging the electorate,. You're using one right now.
A mass non-vote is a non-starter as it would change nothing. Opting to remove onesself from the democratic process is the most impotent of choices. Disaffection with those who have the courage to stand and to put up with scrutiny can only truly be countered by standing yourself. Active change from within is always more effective than ineffectual crowing from without.
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Posted: Wed May 7th, 2008 08:21 am |
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i don't get the single issue thing, really i don't
i wasted my votes on paddick and the greens, but that's me for you - the wide eyed naivette*
*i know it ain't a word
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Posted: Wed May 7th, 2008 08:22 am |
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kraftwerk wrote: nickwiz wrote: kraftwerk wrote: Not voting is not an option. If you think there's no point in voting, then the only option is to put yourself forward as a candidate.
Oh please! With what financial backing? With what support? Be real. If, as I do, you think there is no one worth my vote what option do I have aside from the unrealistic option of standing for election?
And why would I stand for election to have my every move, foible etc dissected by a permanently hostile press? To put my nearest and dearest through the meatgrinder that is the media scrum?
No I believe I have a right to expect more from people who are paid very highly to represent me.
In the local elections, not one candidate came to my door. Infact the only party that actualy bothered to even leaflet my house was the Fascist BNP!!!! Please tell me why I should mandate anyone to represent me when they can't even be bothered to talk to talk to me?
No Vote is a valid option. It sends a message that we have lost confidence in this shower of idiots. Almost everyone I talk to has lost faith in the current political parties. To continue to vote is to continue to let them think they are relevant and to preserve the status quo. Its time for a change. A percentage turnout in the single figures would send an unequivocal message that the people who claim leadership, and the right to represent us no longer have that right. It might force a real taking stock and a shift in the kind of crap political conformity that we currently have.
No Vote is a valid choice nowadays.
Lots of people stand on next-to-zero budget. There were maybe a dozen options on the ballot paper, only a handful of any profile. You don't need financial backing to stand. Or, and I'm just putting this out there, you could actually get off your arse and secure financial backing if your ideas and policies were worth supporting. That's how it works.
And to expect, in this day and age, every candidate to knock on your door is a bit off. There are far more effective ways of engaging the electorate,. You're using one right now.
A mass non-vote is a non-starter as it would change nothing. Opting to remove onesself from the democratic process is the most impotent of choices. Disaffection with those who have the courage to stand and to put up with scrutiny can only truly be countered by standing yourself. Active change from within is always more effective than ineffectual crowing from without.
Are you a Councillor? I think you are wrong! Lets agree to disagree
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Posted: Wed May 7th, 2008 08:26 am |
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nickwiz wrote: Are you a Councillor? I think you are wrong! Lets agree to disagree That's no way to act!
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