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Posted: Sun Aug 3rd, 2008 04:28 am |
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A medical student with dyslexia claims multiple choice exams discriminate against people with the condition and is taking legal action to prevent their use.
She says although essays and practicals have not been a problem, multiple choice questions discriminate against people with dyslexia as "they don't let me express my knowledge."
"In normal day life, you don't get given multiple choice questions to sit. Your patients aren't going to ask you 'here's an option and four answers. Which one is right?'" she says.
Does she have a point?
Should multi-guess type exams be binned for the sake of the minority in the quest for non-discrimination? Or do we continue as we have done for ever, and perhaps exceptions should be made for the sufferers?
Main source: BBC
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Posted: Sun Aug 3rd, 2008 06:11 am |
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Yeah multiple choice sucks, but for a completely different reason than you suggest.
In my area of expertise, I was called upon to answer, in essay form, 20 questions in each of the multiple examinations I took for that year for four years and thankfully made at least a passing grade in all of them and every year they would tell us "next year this exam will be multiple choice", I have since then taken multiple choice exams (or tests as I prefer to call them) and have been severely gob smacked by how damn easy they where.
I am also dismayed at the quality of graduate that this system of examination is producing, they are serving up people that are no better than "help", when I left college, I was ready for the real world, these people really don't have a clue.
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Posted: Sun Aug 3rd, 2008 07:03 am |
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she obv has not seen the hospital scene in Idiocracy - it's the future, bro
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Posted: Sun Aug 3rd, 2008 08:02 am |
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Mutliple choice is the lazy option for examiners (or often if they don't rate the student's chance of passing too highly). If I am marking, multiple choice please, otherwise they are a really bad idea.
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Posted: Sun Aug 3rd, 2008 08:04 am |
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Judging by the quality of graduates applying for work in my field these days, there must be an epidemic of Dyslexia in our universities. In all the exams I ever sat, though a long time ago, I do not recall any 'tick the correct answer box' questions. You either knew enough correct answers, or failed the exam.
Is Dyslexia a 'modern' condition? I have no recollection of any child, at any school I attended being unable to read and write by the age of 6. Granted, Dyslexia does not seem to be a reflection of intelligence, but why are levels of adult literacy now significantly lower than in the 1950's?
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Posted: Sun Aug 3rd, 2008 09:47 am |
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karTER wrote:
A medical student with dyslexia claims multiple choice exams discriminate against people with the condition and is taking legal action to prevent their use.
She says although essays and practicals have not been a problem, multiple choice questions discriminate against people with dyslexia as "they don't let me express my knowledge."
"In normal day life, you don't get given multiple choice questions to sit. Your patients aren't going to ask you 'here's an option and four answers. Which one is right?'" she says.
Does she have a point?
She has a point right up until she gives the wrong medicine because she mistook the wording on the label for something else.
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Posted: Sun Aug 3rd, 2008 03:27 pm |
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| I don't understand what being dyslexic has to do with the format of questions. Am I missing something obvious?
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Posted: Sun Aug 3rd, 2008 04:22 pm |
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| dyslexia rules ko
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Posted: Sun Aug 3rd, 2008 05:09 pm |
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| I missed dyslexia by about four years. In my day you were just a dozy bastard.
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Posted: Mon Aug 4th, 2008 03:55 am |
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Iyato wrote: I don't understand what being dyslexic has to do with the format of questions. Am I missing something obvious?
Yes, it's explained in the article- follow the link.
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Posted: Mon Aug 4th, 2008 06:01 am |
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Oh, right. Not sure if this counts as discrimination though.
Is her point that it's harder for her? Because Doctor Rack (good name) disagrees that people with the condition are massively affected by this.
I don't mind the format, for me it makes exams easier.
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Posted: Mon Aug 4th, 2008 09:02 am |
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I'd rather not have a dyslexic doctor...
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Posted: Mon Aug 4th, 2008 10:06 am |
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Animal wrote: I'd rather not have a dyslexic doctor...
Too right mate. I sympathise with anyone living with a disability, but most realise that their affliction disqualifies them from certain careers etc. I suppose medics don't need latin these days then? I'm not qualified to hold an objective opinion .... it's a condition of which I have no understanding, bit I'm happy to accept the proposition that it can affect an individual of otherwise considerable intellect. I do have difficulty however, with the contrived excuses for other intellectual shortcomings. I had a colleague with a teenage son, who had been a proper little shite since the age of 4. It turns out he had 'ADD', which is an acronym (apparently) for proper little shite. Then there are people identified as having ... 'learning difficulties'. What was wrong with 'thick'?
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Posted: Mon Aug 4th, 2008 10:10 am |
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Dresda wrote: I had a colleague with a teenage son, who had been a proper little shite since the age of 4. It turns out he had 'ADD', which is an acronym (apparently) for proper little shite. Then there are people identified as having ... 'learning difficulties'. What was wrong with 'thick'?
Thankyou for your deeply insightful and obviously well-informed assessment of children with learning difficulties. It is clearly a conclusion you have reached after years of study on the subject and thousands of hours spent with kids so affected.
What an arse.
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Posted: Mon Aug 4th, 2008 10:21 am |
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Ian wrote: Dresda wrote: I had a colleague with a teenage son, who had been a proper little shite since the age of 4. It turns out he had 'ADD', which is an acronym (apparently) for proper little shite. Then there are people identified as having ... 'learning difficulties'. What was wrong with 'thick'?
Thankyou for your deeply insightful and obviously well-informed assessment of children with learning difficulties. It is clearly a conclusion you have reached after years of study on the subject and thousands of hours spent with kids so affected.
What an arse.
You find the excuses pal, I just say it like I see it.
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Posted: Mon Aug 4th, 2008 10:26 am |
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Whilst I agree about certain jobs being out of reach for some people, ie dyslexia in doctors, or poor vision for fighter pilots, I don't agree with your comments about children with learning difficulties.
It's the easy way out to say, 'there's no such thing they are just thick'. Plus, in most cases, it's just not true.
I went to school with a couple of guys who were diagnosed with ADHD, they found school a hell of a lot more tough than the rest of us because they were diagnosed so late *and were continually being bundled into classes with everyone else*. The thing is even if they were diagnosed earlier, I don't know of any learning difficulty schemes to actually help their development anyway.
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Posted: Mon Aug 4th, 2008 10:27 am |
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Dresda wrote: Ian wrote: Dresda wrote: I had a colleague with a teenage son, who had been a proper little shite since the age of 4. It turns out he had 'ADD', which is an acronym (apparently) for proper little shite. Then there are people identified as having ... 'learning difficulties'. What was wrong with 'thick'?
Thankyou for your deeply insightful and obviously well-informed assessment of children with learning difficulties. It is clearly a conclusion you have reached after years of study on the subject and thousands of hours spent with kids so affected.
What an arse.
You find the excuses pal, I just say it like I see it.
I don't doubt that for a second. But this way that you see it - it's based on what exactly? Pitching yourself up against the entire scientific community? That's quite a pair of balls you've got there fella. If I were to form such a polarised opinion of something I'd go to the trouble of learning a bit about it first but you seem to have completely bypassed that step altogether.
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Posted: Mon Aug 4th, 2008 10:46 am |
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I applaud the efforts made these days to help all kids reach their full potential, but whichever way you slice and package it, thick is thick, whichever way you try to say it. You can't make a silk purse from a sows ear as they say.
Further, I was not aware that the 'entire scientific community' had devoted itself to research into why some kids appear not to be the full shilling, but there, you have the advantage of me.
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Posted: Mon Aug 4th, 2008 11:11 am |
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Dresda wrote: I applaud the efforts made these days to help all kids reach their full potential, but whichever way you slice and package it, thick is thick, whichever way you try to say it. You can't make a silk purse from a sows ear as they say.
Further, I was not aware that the 'entire scientific community' had devoted itself to research into why some kids appear not to be the full shilling, but there, you have the advantage of me.
So, just to clarify here - There are thick kids and clever kids, but no such thing as learning difficulties?
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Thick kids, clever kids and kids with genuine problems?
Which one is it? A straight answer on this would be nice.
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