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eddieknocker
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 Posted: Sun May 4th, 2008 04:16 pm

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Riding on the North Circ last night I passed a Lambo Murcialago (?). Seconds later I was undercut by a couple of cunts on Gixers or some such. They proceeded to buzz the lambo , pull wheelies, cut in and out of traffic (of which there was quite a bit) and goad the lambo driver it into racing.

The inner child in me did smile to myself at the ridiculousness of there behaviour so I followed along in the hope of one of them coming a cropper. Then I also thought of how pissed off the majority of other drivers would be and how the bikers behaviour is the the kind that encourages more legislation against us.

Now are they perfectly entitled to act that way - thumbing there nose at convention and sensible behaviour/the health and safety brigade (which i'm guessing is what got a lot of people in to biking in the first place) or are they absolute cocks endangering others and who should be not be allowed on the road?

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 Posted: Sun May 4th, 2008 04:21 pm

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The latter

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 Posted: Sun May 4th, 2008 04:41 pm

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eddieknocker wrote:  They proceeded to buzz the lambo , pull wheelies, cut in and out of traffic (of which there was quite a bit) and goad the lambo driver it into racing.

Now are they perfectly entitled to act that way - thumbing there nose at convention and sensible behaviour/the health and safety brigade (which i'm guessing is what got a lot of people in to biking in the first place) or are they absolute cocks endangering others and who should be not be allowed on the road?

No. They are not perfectly entitled to act that way. I thought pullling wheelies was illegal. They are arseholes.

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 Posted: Sun May 4th, 2008 05:22 pm

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But a tiny, tiny part of me admires that stupidity and as we get taxed, camera'd, petrol-increased,health and safety-ed to death,  thinks its a good thing that they exist. I wouldn't want to be like them for a second . Sorry to get all "clarkson".



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 Posted: Sun May 4th, 2008 05:54 pm

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There must be people out there who like to see that sort of thing, because those annoying, worst police chase in the world, ever, in the world part 90, hosted by some idiot who pretends to be shocked by the behavior on screen, but has 11 points on his licence, and a drink driving conviction, type programs are always on the television. Not sure who they are aimed at, because I would assume that most under five's are in bed by nine anyway. 

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 Posted: Sun May 4th, 2008 06:30 pm

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If you're going to be naughty, don't let other people see.  We all get tarred with the same brush.



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 Posted: Sun May 4th, 2008 09:07 pm

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Here we go with the old gixxer-bashing :P



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 Posted: Sun May 4th, 2008 09:29 pm

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Just by the way... on my way home from work on Friday, I used a stretch of the A406 North Circ between Hanger Lane and Walthamstow. At Palmers Green, traffic was backed up quite a bit and I could see several sets of blue lights in the distance.

A Gixxer rider had ridden in to the back of a Ford Focus that had stopped at a pelican crossing, smashing the tailgate window and making a big, bike-shaped dent in the back of the motor. The rider was sprawled on the road, on his back, helmet off, with several people crowded around. Hope he's OK.

Anyway, one of my motorcycling maxims is 'Don't ride like a cunt.' There's no need for it. It makes you and, by default, every other motorcyclist look, well, like a cunt.



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 Posted: Sun May 4th, 2008 11:11 pm

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I had an experience something like this today,travelling over the fell road to work,I was passed by a bloke on an africa twin(I think,not 100% but thats what it looked like)nowt wrong with that he was quick and smooth and looked to be in total control,and I was riding like a novice(see seperate thread)the thing that worried me was the riders lines and speed,now the road I`m talking about isn`t quite single track but it aint far off and it has quite a few blind corners and crests but this fella was treating it like it was a closed circuit and there was no chance of anything coming the other way,now I just can`t do this ,maybe when I was much younger and far more reckless I did but now I seem to have some sort of inbuilt safety system that makes me far more cautious.

Was he beeing a dick or am I just becoming an old fart? 



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 Posted: Sun May 4th, 2008 11:26 pm

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Unfortunately these "riders" dont misbehave only against fast cars...
Last summer I was ridding along the coast road, a 2 mile straight (well nearly straight) wide enough to accomadate 5 cars side by side, often used during several nights for illegal racing. I was ridding the scoot...enjoying the morning ride...in the opposite direction I notice a fellow "ridder" on his modified R1 with no leathers or Crash helmet going in a slow (at least for an R1) speed. I thought of how nice is to enjoy a lazy ride on the R1 and wished to be in his place, but it did not meant to last. Two mins later and while I was cruising at 30mph he overtakes me going with more than 60mph, passing just several inces from my left handle bar. It scared the crap out of me as it was so sudden and adding the screaming roar of the R1 engine you can imagine the effect. No lets say I tilted abit left and the bikes touched while he was overtacking me. Thinking of the possible result just brings me shivers. :?

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 Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 01:00 am

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johnktm wrote:
I had an experience something like this today,travelling over the fell road to work,I was passed by a bloke on an africa twin(I think,not 100% but thats what it looked like)nowt wrong with that he was quick and smooth and looked to be in total control,and I was riding like a novice(see seperate thread)the thing that worried me was the riders lines and speed,now the road I`m talking about isn`t quite single track but it aint far off and it has quite a few blind corners and crests but this fella was treating it like it was a closed circuit and there was no chance of anything coming the other way,now I just can`t do this ,maybe when I was much younger and far more reckless I did but now I seem to have some sort of inbuilt safety system that makes me far more cautious.

Was he beeing a dick or am I just becoming an old fart? 


I think some riders just learn to be carefull and be fast and some others don't give a damn, even about their own life, and be fast. Now if being carefull and care for your well being makes you an old fart then I should retire too and everyone else who puts safety first or at least when he/she plays with the bike for the adrenaline rush, he/she doesn't threat the well being of himself/herself and other road users.

Another thing I dont understand, is people driving recklessly in public roads when they are so many tracks with trackday events (especialy here in the UK) where you can run and overtake to your hearts content.

Well that's my opinion, ride hard if you want but have respect for the life of others as well as yours.

PS: I apologise for any mistakes in these last two posts, but its quite late already. ;)

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It's always the bad minority that spoil it for the good majority; in all walks of life.

There's nothing you can personally do to stop it, so just enjoy yourself and ignore the rest.



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On the flip side, I overtook a bloke on a big GS the other day coming home and thought "what's the point of having a bike if you're not going to overtake the traffic?".



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 Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 10:06 am

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Don`t get me wrong I`m no angel,and do take a number of risks,but it just seems there are a few out there that have an absolute `no fear`attitude ,the ride is everything to them ,seemingly using `the force`see around blind corners and over crests.



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TimmyMagic wrote: On the flip side, I overtook a bloke on a big GS the other day coming home and thought "what's the point of having a bike if you're not going to overtake the traffic?".

TM- assume that the traffic was flowing slower than the speed limit to warrant an overtake?

If the traffic is moving well- for example on a motorway around the legal limit, then there's not much point in overtakes/filtering....

Having said all that, those GS's are almost as wide as a car :P



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Came across a R1-riding prick (reg no GP57... red and white) on the A112 near Sewardstone this afternoon. Jeans and T-shirt, pulls a wheelie at around 80mph past a car. I mean, what the fuck is the point of that, other than to make yourself look at complete cunt?

Oh well; he'll be dead soon.



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 Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 03:52 pm

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eddieknocker wrote:
The inner child in me did smile to myself at the ridiculousness of there behaviour so I followed along in the hope of one of them coming a cropper.
bollocks, you ain't that much of a cunt


i only really think about other peoples driving/riding when it effects me directly



eddieknocker wrote: Then I also thought of how pissed off the majority of other drivers would be and how the bikers behaviour is the the kind that encourages more legislation against us.lolz@u - you're a biker now?



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mph999 wrote: TimmyMagic wrote: On the flip side, I overtook a bloke on a big GS the other day coming home and thought "what's the point of having a bike if you're not going to overtake the traffic?".

TM- assume that the traffic was flowing slower than the speed limit to warrant an overtake?

If the traffic is moving well- for example on a motorway around the legal limit, then there's not much point in overtakes/filtering....

Having said all that, those GS's are almost as wide as a car :P

Speed limit?

If traffic is in front of me then it's my duty as a motorcyclist to overtake it, sure;y?



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dooley wrote: eddieknocker wrote:
The inner child in me did smile to myself at the ridiculousness of there behaviour so I followed along in the hope of one of them coming a cropper.
bollocks, you ain't that much of a cunt


i only really think about other peoples driving/riding when it effects me directly



eddieknocker wrote: Then I also thought of how pissed off the majority of other drivers would be and how the bikers behaviour is the the kind that encourages more legislation against us.lolz@u - you're a biker now?


Affects, not effects. And I'm pissed :P



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 Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 10:51 pm

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dooley wrote: eddieknocker wrote:
The inner child in me did smile to myself at the ridiculousness of there behaviour so I followed along in the hope of one of them coming a cropper.
bollocks, you ain't that much of a cunt


i only really think about other peoples driving/riding when it effects me directly



eddieknocker wrote: Then I also thought of how pissed off the majority of other drivers would be and how the bikers behaviour is the the kind that encourages more legislation against us.lolz@u - you're a biker now?



Straight up d-man - i followed em. I will also watch the occasional police chase clip show though in my job i've seen most of em. I like to think of it this way - most blokes like gangster films - i know i do. I would never act like a gangster. I assume most of us enjoy them because we would like to act that way without guilt but we have our own sense of morals and also what normal society views as acceptable so we don't allow ourselves to act that way. Yes? No?

And as for being me being a biker I thought karter would have picked up on that and not you...;)



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