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Posted: Sat Jun 28th, 2008 03:06 pm |
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| hi, im 26 years old, and i have a full car licence, i am wanting to learn to ride but im not sure which bike to get when i get my cbt? i did like the aprilia 125 but was put off by alot of people, i rreally like the look of the hyosung gt 125 r, id just like to know what people think, weather its a good bike to learn on? until i get my full licence and get a slightly bigger bike..
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Posted: Sat Jun 28th, 2008 08:54 pm |
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| I had the Hyosung GT125 for two years while faffing about getting round to DAS. It was completely reliable. The GTR faired version was not out then.
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Posted: Sat Jun 28th, 2008 11:10 pm |
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If you can afford it, I would definitely do the full license straight away. Then, even if you do decide to get a 125 (unlikely after you find how much better a bigger bike is to ride) you will have the benefits of extra training.
I was really tempted to sit on my CBT and get a 125, but I'm so glad I didn't.
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Posted: Sun Jun 29th, 2008 12:37 am |
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+1. Do a Direct Access course if you can, then go straight on to a 500/600 or something. Better stability, better handling, better brakes and enough engine to get you out of the way of other traffic.
If you must get a 125, then the main thing is resale value, because you'll be wanting to move up pretty soon. Or give up riding. So Hondas, really, doesn't matter which one although if you're a big guy the Varadero is the best choice.
Not a Hyosung.
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Posted: Sun Jun 29th, 2008 05:56 am |
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2nd hand CG 125.
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Posted: Sun Jun 29th, 2008 02:12 pm |
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CG 125s seem unfazed by learner ham-fistedness and, in my case, downright abuse. I was glad that I had one for a while as an entry into biking - easy to ride and maintain/repair, cheap to run, etc - before getting a bigger bike after my test.
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Posted: Mon Jun 30th, 2008 12:25 am |
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PaulR wrote: +1. Do a Direct Access course if you can, then go straight on to a 500/600 or something. Better stability, better handling, better brakes and enough engine to get you out of the way of other traffic.
If you must get a 125, then the main thing is resale value, because you'll be wanting to move up pretty soon. Or give up riding. So Hondas, really, doesn't matter which one although if you're a big guy the Varadero is the best choice.
Not a Hyosung.
Very much agree with PaulR: I bought a Kymco Pulsar 125, which I spent 4 years riding (2 years after my CBT, 2 years on an A1 restricted licence after doing my test on it). I've now had my ER6 for a year.
Plus points were the cheap as chips commuting (80mpg, £15 road tax) and the 125 ran well. Cheap (£1800 new), good build quality (but it was one of the early ones), tough (crashed well) and cheap to repair. Also got a lot of experience on something that wasn't expensive/heavy/too fast. Downsides were: being totally beaten up by every car that felt like it, not being able to safely overtake anything doing over 40mph (tractors, trucks...), not being able to use motorways or go anywhere long distance or quickly, lack of braking and lack of stability in the wet/over poor surfaces. Resale value and 2nd hand value was very low so I'd recommend a Honda as well.
With the benefit of hindsight I'd recommend direct access or a rapid training/test period as well: I look back on my time on the 125 as satisfying and useful, but I'm having much more fun now: the 125 never gave me a "yeeee-haaaar!" moment  .
It's a bit like comparing a black & white TV with mono sound against a wide-screen HD TV with a cinema system. Both do the job but one is so much more enjoyable than the other.
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Posted: Mon Jun 30th, 2008 06:07 am |
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Take a look at the 125 Varadero, as featured in the latest Bike issue.
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Posted: Tue Jul 1st, 2008 07:48 am |
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CG125, I've had one for 4 months, done 3000 miles on it and had no problems. It's not the most attractive bike but it'll run for ever, use no fuel and never break.
Great little bike. A second hand one will be really cheap.
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Posted: Tue Jul 1st, 2008 09:03 am |
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ExpatinIstanbul wrote: Take a look at the 125 Varadero, as featured in the latest Bike issue.
Aren't 125 Varas bollock droppingly expensive?
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Posted: Tue Jul 1st, 2008 09:10 am |
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Pussyhorse wrote: ExpatinIstanbul wrote: Take a look at the 125 Varadero, as featured in the latest Bike issue.
Aren't 125 Varas bollock droppingly expensive?
I don't know.
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Posted: Tue Jul 1st, 2008 10:52 am |
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| 125 Varaderos are expensive. Despite what others say I would STILL recommend the Hyosung. I bought mine at 4 months old for 1900 quid and sold it 2 years and 3 months later for 1250. Don't buy a new one obviously. But those figures seem ok to me with only costs being petrol and about 200 quid in servicing including a new chain and sprockets. It gives you the big bike feel in size, but not power. It depends on your physical size too, but at 6 foot 2 I would have completely dwarfed a CG125 (which I tried). To me that is a major problem, many bikes are too small for big buggers like me.
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Posted: Tue Jul 1st, 2008 10:52 am |
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£3500 new, about £2500 second hand. According to Biketrader.
It is a damn big bike for a 125cc.
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Posted: Tue Jul 1st, 2008 01:01 pm |
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DrFutura wrote: 125 Varaderos are expensive. Despite what others say I would STILL recommend the Hyosung. I bought mine at 4 months old for 1900 quid and sold it 2 years and 3 months later for 1250. Don't buy a new one obviously. But those figures seem ok to me with only costs being petrol and about 200 quid in servicing including a new chain and sprockets. It gives you the big bike feel in size, but not power. It depends on your physical size too, but at 6 foot 2 I would have completely dwarfed a CG125 (which I tried). To me that is a major problem, many bikes are too small for big buggers like me.
oh yeah i forgot to mention i am 6,6 so i need to take that into account
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Posted: Tue Jul 1st, 2008 01:08 pm |
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Varaderos are more expensive to buy, but their resale values are extremely high - therefore the cost of ownership is lower than that of most cheaper bikes.
And if you're six foot six it's one of the few small-engined bikes that will work for you.
But it's still a better bet to do a DAS course and go straight to a 600+, cutting out the supermoped stage altogether.
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six-six? haha, definitely get a cg then
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Posted: Tue Jul 1st, 2008 01:22 pm |
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| yeah i have been reading all the comments and i think im actually going to go ahead and do my direct access, sounds like the better idea i think, thanks for all your help, its appriciated
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Posted: Tue Jul 1st, 2008 01:29 pm |
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ox26 wrote: yeah i have been reading all the comments and i think im actually going to go ahead and do my direct access, sounds like the better idea i think, thanks for all your help, its appriciated
Obviously not, we've racked our brains and come up with some great suggestions, but you go and do what you want, that's ok, it's all you, you, you.
I really can't believe the selfishness of some people. It's like when I saved the drowning man and all he did was give me his life savings in thanks............and what about the price of oil, it's outfuckingrageous.........and that Gordon Brown........
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Posted: Tue Jul 8th, 2008 10:36 am |
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Hi
I'm also one of the late starters in the biking world (am now 32) and have my CBT booked for August. Having read all of the above posts, I get the impression that a CG125 would be better for me. I'm 5'4 but not a skinny build so I can handle the weight while I'm learning.
However, I've been told to look at the Yamaha and Suzuki 125s as well. Is there any major difference between them and the Honda or are they much of a muchness?
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littlemisscowboy wrote: Hi
I'm also one of the late starters in the biking world (am now 32) and have my CBT booked for August. Having read all of the above posts, I get the impression that a CG125 would be better for me. I'm 5'4 but not a skinny build so I can handle the weight while I'm learning.
However, I've been told to look at the Yamaha and Suzuki 125s as well. Is there any major difference between them and the Honda or are they much of a muchness?
Ta in advance
Welcome to the board.
Most of the Japanese "Big Four" have some kind of 125 for beginners and they're as good as each other.
Let price be a guide to which one you should go for; it is merely a learning tool. Just avoid any 2-stroke machine until you've got a bit more confidence/experience.
Good luck and let us know of your progress.
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