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Posted: Sun Sep 23rd, 2007 08:17 pm |
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You must by now know the result.
A flawless championship from an utterly reformed character. It really is easier to take a fast crasher than a slow but steady bring-it-homer and turn him into a world champ, so it seems.
How we all laughed when Ducati signed him. How wrong we all were. He's the only man to consistently challenge Rossi and make him look kinda..........ordinario.
Nice to see Capirossi get a win too - his swansong? Maybe it ought to be.
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Posted: Sun Sep 23rd, 2007 08:34 pm |
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| The Wallabies flogged Fiji (sort of expected) and Casey wins the title. Great day for an Aussie. But we did lose the pretend cricket thing....
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Posted: Sun Sep 23rd, 2007 10:10 pm |
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Negr6 wrote: You must by now know the result.
A flawless championship from an utterly reformed character. It really is easier to take a fast crasher than a slow but steady bring-it-homer and turn him into a world champ, so it seems.
How we all laughed when Ducati signed him. How wrong we all were. He's the only man to consistently challenge Rossi and make him look kinda..........ordinario.
Nice to see Capirossi get a win too - his swansong? Maybe it ought to be.
Ok, Stoner has done well this year. Capriossi and Hayden have also had their years of success.
Only one rider is consistently good every year. Rossi ! If he is not 1st then he is second in the championship, I mean where is Hayden this year ? Many riders have challenged and beaten Rossi. Few do it consistently, year to year (forget race to race ). Hayden won last year but does anyone think he is as good as Rossi ?
When Stoner has won 3 titles then I will rate him highly as a rider. In my book he has just been lucky this year with bike, tyres and set up, mainly tyres. Let`s see if he can win next year or at least finish second in the championship before we start comparing him to the likes of Rossi.
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Posted: Sun Sep 23rd, 2007 10:30 pm |
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Yeah thats right VeeFour - I personally dont rate anybody who hasn't won AT LEAST 5 premier class titles in a row. On a 500. 
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Posted: Sun Sep 23rd, 2007 11:19 pm |
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Vee Four wrote: Negr6 wrote: You must by now know the result.
A flawless championship from an utterly reformed character. It really is easier to take a fast crasher than a slow but steady bring-it-homer and turn him into a world champ, so it seems.
How we all laughed when Ducati signed him. How wrong we all were. He's the only man to consistently challenge Rossi and make him look kinda..........ordinario.
Nice to see Capirossi get a win too - his swansong? Maybe it ought to be.
Ok, Stoner has done well this year. Capriossi and Hayden have also had their years of success.
Only one rider is consistently good every year. Rossi ! If he is not 1st then he is second in the championship, I mean where is Hayden this year ? Many riders have challenged and beaten Rossi. Few do it consistently, year to year (forget race to race ). Hayden won last year but does anyone think he is as good as Rossi ?
When Stoner has won 3 titles then I will rate him highly as a rider. In my book he has just been lucky this year with bike, tyres and set up, mainly tyres. Let`s see if he can win next year or at least finish second in the championship before we start comparing him to the likes of Rossi.
Damn, so where do you rate on your list, my guess is a big ZERO.
Spotty Aussie or not, he won it, get used to it.
And as for you Breva750, I guess at least you ride Italian.
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Posted: Mon Sep 24th, 2007 12:36 am |
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Regardless of who did what, rode what, had what tyres you have to ride the kit you have fecking well at Motogp and by feck the lad did good. I love the lads modesty, ability and he rode every session like it was his last and that's what make some riders better than others. He's young and his time will come for more championships and we should all be happy that he won it by winning and winning a lot. Unlike the likeable but not exactly overly rated Hayden.
Viva la difference........!!!!!
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Posted: Mon Sep 24th, 2007 07:06 am |
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Good on im. Aussie Aussie Aussie...
But don't right Rossi off for next year. Or Honda for that matter. 
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Posted: Mon Sep 24th, 2007 08:12 am |
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Not to take anything away from Casey Stoner - what a year and what a transformation as Neg said, but from a machine point of view, it's Ducati who've really got it right.
When the 990s first came in, Honda got it right straight away. Yamaha were floundering with a carb fed monster and Suzuki didn't get theirs right for ages. Now it's Ducati who've got the 800cc machines nailed from the off, with Suzuki & Kwak not that far behind. Although Yamaha have reacted quickest, it's Honda who were playing catch up straight away. Once Honda get themselves together (as they have done towards the end of the season), I reckon we'll see a more level playing field.
But all credit to Stoner. He's been consistent, fast and clever where he's had to. No messing around, just awesomely fast. Rossi champion ever again? I wouldn't bet on it, especially with Jorge Lorenzo chasing him next year as well.
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Posted: Mon Sep 24th, 2007 08:50 am |
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| Oh yes Chilli, I do ride italian but on the dark side - Moto Guzzi. And I'm an Aussie.
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Posted: Mon Sep 24th, 2007 08:56 am |
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Forza Stoner!
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Posted: Mon Sep 24th, 2007 10:56 am |
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Very pleased for him.
Now we'll see exacly what Rossi is made of for the next championship...
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Posted: Mon Sep 24th, 2007 11:50 am |
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karTER wrote: Very pleased for him.
Now we'll see exacly what Rossi is made of for the next championship...
He looks past his best.
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Posted: Mon Sep 24th, 2007 12:10 pm |
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Far too early to say if Stoner is the real deal or not. He's a worthy champion this year but he did seem to have the best of things didn't he? The Ducati was so quick in a straight line, did it flatter him and could he have done it on a lesser machine? Or Michelins? I guess we will never know.
Two years from now he will either be celebrating a 2nd or 3rd year as world champion or he will be another guy who came and went in a single year like quite a few others. He's young, very talented and the teams bosses will like him.
Rossi's star may be fading but he will still be there or thereabouts next year I reckon. And let's not rule everyone else out - who knows who is going to come good right at the start of a new season? It's all a bit of a lottery, must be why we love it!
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Posted: Mon Sep 24th, 2007 12:15 pm |
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Ian wrote: Far too early to say if Stoner is the real deal or not. He's a worthy champion this year but he did seem to have the best of things didn't he? The Ducati was so quick in a straight line, did it flatter him and could he have done it on a lesser machine? Or Michelins? I guess we will never know.
Two years from now he will either be celebrating a 2nd or 3rd year as world champion or he will be another guy who came and went in a single year like quite a few others. He's young, very talented and the teams bosses will like him.
Rossi's star may be fading but he will still be there or thereabouts next year I reckon. And let's not rule everyone else out - who knows who is going to come good right at the start of a new season? It's all a bit of a lottery, must be why we love it!
But he wan't the only one in that team....
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Posted: Mon Sep 24th, 2007 12:15 pm |
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| If Rossi hadn't gone back in for no reason, he'd still be in it. His times were fantastic even on his worn out 'medium' grade tyres. I kept shouting at the bloody tv "GO IN AND CHANGE DON'T WAIT FOR STONER", but no, he wouldn't listen. Why did he go back in? Has he never raced cold tyres before? I don't understand! Ah well. Well done Stoner anyway.
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Posted: Mon Sep 24th, 2007 12:23 pm |
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What was wrong with Rossi's second bike? Looked like the front brake wasn't working?
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Posted: Mon Sep 24th, 2007 12:27 pm |
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TimmyMagic wrote: Ian wrote: Far too early to say if Stoner is the real deal or not. He's a worthy champion this year but he did seem to have the best of things didn't he? The Ducati was so quick in a straight line, did it flatter him and could he have done it on a lesser machine? Or Michelins? I guess we will never know.
Two years from now he will either be celebrating a 2nd or 3rd year as world champion or he will be another guy who came and went in a single year like quite a few others. He's young, very talented and the teams bosses will like him.
Rossi's star may be fading but he will still be there or thereabouts next year I reckon. And let's not rule everyone else out - who knows who is going to come good right at the start of a new season? It's all a bit of a lottery, must be why we love it!
But he wan't the only one in that team....
Oh yeah, his youthful and stunningly talented team mate in the first flush of his competitive peak and on IDENTICAL machinery.
Sorry, I forgot all about him.
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Posted: Mon Sep 24th, 2007 12:32 pm |
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Yep, the one that won the race....
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Posted: Mon Sep 24th, 2007 12:38 pm |
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TimmyMagic wrote: Yep, the one that won the race....
............and when was the last one he won?
Anyhow, you kinda made my point for me there didn't you?
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Posted: Mon Sep 24th, 2007 12:42 pm |
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Ian wrote: TimmyMagic wrote: Yep, the one that won the race....
............and when was the last one he won?
Anyhow, you kinda made my point for me there didn't you?
And you've just made mine. Same bikes and tyres, Stoner has won the title, Capirossi has just won a race.....
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