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flyer47
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Posted: Sun Apr 27th, 2008 01:22 pm |
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In this months issue of Bike good old Rupe has taken a whole page to say the VFR750 was a great bike. Rupe, mate, to save reading your dreary articles try to be a little more succinct. Your contribution could be summarised as follows:
The VFR750 was a great alrounder.
God save me from another month of R.P. crap.
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Posted: Sun Apr 27th, 2008 01:59 pm |
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Rubbish, he's the best writer in Bike.
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Posted: Sun Apr 27th, 2008 02:26 pm |
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| In an issue of confusion and disappointment his was a voice of reason. Long may he write what he sees and thinks and long may he not be exhorting us to find satisfaction and fulfilment in something that won't get the senses tingling. Unlike his editor.
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Posted: Sun Apr 27th, 2008 04:25 pm |
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i like him. he's wrong about training though.
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Posted: Sun Apr 27th, 2008 07:46 pm |
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He is great and I like his writing.
He generally gets beyond the superficial stuff about bikes and into the more interesting (to me) part - which is about people and bikes.
If you cut out all the 'unnecessary' words written in Bike, you would have a short issue - probably just a few bhp statistics.
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Posted: Sun Apr 27th, 2008 07:48 pm |
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Sotto Voce wrote: In an issue of confusion and disappointment his was a voice of reason. Long may he write what he sees and thinks and long may he not be exhorting us to find satisfaction and fulfilment in something that won't get the senses tingling. Unlike his editor.
Do you want to elaborate on that sotto voice? Sounds an interesting opinion.
And by 'this months' are we talking about the May edition (latest I have seen) or the June one - that I see others have in their hands?
edit - sorry cancel that - just read the June issue thread. I think it answers both questions.
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Posted: Sun Apr 27th, 2008 08:57 pm |
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brox2 wrote: He is great and I like his writing.
He generally gets beyond the superficial stuff about bikes and into the more interesting (to me) part - which is about people and bikes.
If you cut out all the 'unnecessary' words written in Bike, you would have a short issue - probably just a few bhp statistics.
+1. He stays!!! 
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Posted: Sun Apr 27th, 2008 09:38 pm |
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I too am a big Rupe fan - he's thinking about stuff in a wider context and I like it, much is very insightful & a lot is re-assuringly trivial yet humourous.
Everytime I get in a car I smirk about his column about chasing the mpg meter being the only real-world thrill left in driving a car.
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Posted: Mon Apr 28th, 2008 07:14 am |
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RP's one of the good ones, I think. Nobody's right, or fascinating, every time, but his batting average is quite high.
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Posted: Mon Apr 28th, 2008 04:38 pm |
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Interesting comments. To me he just states the bleedin' obvious in the most round about, convoluted and uninteresting way imaginable. I just get to the end of his column and think reading it was a waste of two minutes of my life. Give me back my two minutes Rupe.
SACK EVERYONE ELSE AND BRING BACK THAT WHITE HELMETED GOD, MARTIN CHILD !!
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Posted: Tue Apr 29th, 2008 08:22 pm |
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| In response to his article in this months Bike I'd have to say he's right that a sports bike type thing with more real world power, adjustable riding position, lightish, good handling, that isn't so small it dissappears up your bum crack and is a unique machine from the ground up would be the very thing for aging (gracefully ) ex sport bike riders. Such a bike did exist until last year or so (with the addition of some aftermarket variobars) It was called a Triumph 955i Daytona. But in their wisdom the factory discontinued it rather than developing it! You can ride hard and fast on the track, mix it with sports bikes on the road and tour on it, I know cos I do. It has a peachy motor with torque and uniqueness a plenty. It is the answer to Mr Rupert Pauls quest I think. Go get yerself one and fit some adjustable bars should you feel the need. I think you might find it about perfect Rupe. Last edited on Tue Apr 29th, 2008 08:23 pm by nickwiz
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Posted: Wed Apr 30th, 2008 08:02 am |
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nickwiz wrote: In response to his article in this months Bike I'd have to say he's right that a sports bike type thing with more real world power, adjustable riding position, lightish, good handling, that isn't so small it dissappears up your bum crack and is a unique machine from the ground up would be the very thing for aging (gracefully ) ex sport bike riders. Such a bike did exist until last year or so (with the addition of some aftermarket variobars) It was called a Triumph 955i Daytona. But in their wisdom the factory discontinued it rather than developing it! You can ride hard and fast on the track, mix it with sports bikes on the road and tour on it, I know cos I do. It has a peachy motor with torque and uniqueness a plenty. It is the answer to Mr Rupert Pauls quest I think. Go get yerself one and fit some adjustable bars should you feel the need. I think you might find it about perfect Rupe.
I read Ruperts article last night and agree with you that he was merely trying to state that such a bike would catch a lot of sore/aching sportsbike riders who otherwise would be going down the naked/tourer route, which appears to be a sector that is growing. Owning a VFR750 myself I have to agree that it is a brilliant machine. I also own a Daytona t595 and agree with your comments on that to a large degree, except it would need a proper seat for the pillion comfort. Hang on, we are now talking about a Triumph Sprint are we not?
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Posted: Wed Apr 30th, 2008 09:36 am |
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I read Rupe's article, and broadly agree with it. I had a VFR750FV - the last of the carburettor models. I could ride with mates on 'blades without being too embarrassed, ride the length of Europe two up, and use it to go to work on if I wanted to. It did all jobs adequately, not brilliantly, but well.
What bike today can boast "best all rounder"?
What may well explain his article further is the fact that he has now got an 03 VTEC VFR courtesy of the bike garage.
I had my 750 for 7 years from new in '97 until shiny bike syndrome pulled me into buying a new 04 VTEC. I sold it the following July and went back to a nice lo-tec V twin Aprilia.
I think it is Rupe's utter frustration that some geek engineer (I am an engineer) took a bike with really well balanced abilities and fixed what wasn't broken. The previous model (800) makes more power and torque throughout the rev range than the VTEC, without the annoying transition. Linked brakes - very expensive to separate, and slightly irritating if like me you like to trail brake deep into corners etc. They dumped the gear driven cams - the whole heart of the beast.
Someone quoted Martin Child - he hated the VTEC, he actually rated Aprilia's late Futura over the VTEC. I laughed at the time, an Italian bike better than a Honda as a tourer? I've ridden an Aprilia through the Alps since then. The rather crude in comparison Rotax V990 engine is a peach, bags of torque & go, in a bike at least 50kg's lighter than the Honda, and unlinked brembo's all around. Heaven.
I notice that my Tuono's sibling the RSVR was the nearest rival to KTM's rather brilliant RC-8 even given the this model is 5+ years old.
The VFR needs a serious diet. I used to be a member of the VFR Forum, and it's still chock full of owners berating various issues on the model. For me It's too heavy, to complex, and too small. Honda should make a 1000/1200cc V5, max weight 190kg and keep it all as simple as possible, no linked brakes, no electronics in the brakes or power delivery, and definitely no VTEC. I might even buy one then.
On the positive side, I still think the VTEC is a really nice looking bike, mine always turned heads and drew looks wherever I went. The lights are the best I have ever had on a bike for night time riding, but do blind motorists if you don't adjust for a pillion.
VFR RIP.
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Posted: Tue May 6th, 2008 02:09 pm |
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| The VFR has been traded in – a good thing for me and the bike.
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Posted: Tue May 6th, 2008 02:12 pm |
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| never mind RUPE we still all love ya hehehehehe...and the writing apart from this months lol
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Posted: Tue May 6th, 2008 02:13 pm |
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Shame I was curious to see if it could be sorted.
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Posted: Tue May 6th, 2008 02:13 pm |
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rupert paul wrote: The VFR has been traded in – a good thing for me and the bike.
Before or after the "upgrades" 
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Posted: Wed May 7th, 2008 04:00 pm |
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You could spend an awful lot of money on a VFR making it easier to ride and control, but I doubt it would ever be 'sorted'. For one thing it needs more midrange grunt compared with modern engines, and goodness knows how you achieve that without going to 1000cc – which in turn probably means a new crankcase casting.
Like you I'm really curious to see if Honda ditch the linked brakes/VTec/crude fuelling/excess weight/basic suspension philosophy when they make a replacement, though I've been looking forward to this mythical beast for so many years I'm beginning to wonder if they'll ever introduce it.
Hayden's V5 990, now that was a Honda Vee that felt good. I understand they will never make one for the road though. They're had a go and decided that the cost/performance/customer expectation triangle would be too difficult to achieve.
I think Flyer 47 (whoever he is – why don't people use their real names?) has a good point. Though I should mention that my words were quite heavily 'adjusted' by someone on the magazine (I know not who) before they went into print. And bring back Martin Child? Absolutely. I loved his road tests.
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Posted: Wed May 7th, 2008 04:08 pm |
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Ah well, we can all dream cant we.......
c'mon honda, how about it?
No worries Rupert - keep up the good work, yours is one of the columns I read first every month.
Oh, we mortals use forum names to make sure the trolls don't latch onto our email addresses..........
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Posted: Wed May 7th, 2008 05:07 pm |
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For some reason when i saw this topic i got a bit confused and thought you weer talking about "Ru Paul" the african-american drag queen. I was surprised at this and now i understand why i was wrong. I really need some sleep and/or a holiday...
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