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Posted: Mon May 12th, 2008 11:52 pm |
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page 67 of the June issue.
can i go straight to step seven
wow has anyone got the balls to give it a go.
me? id fail at the first hurdle
maybe next year they can do the worst rider
where do i sign........
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Posted: Tue May 13th, 2008 02:54 pm |
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You do get the feeling, looking at the stages, that anyone without a full on sports bike need not apply
I think it's a sad reflection on the state of biking now that a good rider is considered to be one who can go faster than anyone else.
Personally, I think there's a lot more to being a top rider.
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Posted: Tue May 13th, 2008 03:03 pm |
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hi devonrider
where does it say you need to be faster than everyone else? The kind of competition to find that person already exists and is called British Super Bikes.
I reckon that even if you excel at low-speed riding, off road riding and intercontinental riding then you would still have to be able to ride fast and safely on track and road to be able to claim to be an excellant rider.
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Posted: Tue May 13th, 2008 05:31 pm |
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AdrianS wrote:
I reckon that even if you excel at low-speed riding, off road riding and intercontinental riding then you would still have to be able to ride fast and safely on track and road to be able to claim to be an excellant rider.
Ade
There's that word again "fast"
Why does that seem to be the pre-requisite for being considered a good rider.
Why is it all about how fast you can go.
Does it necessarily follow that someone who rides a CG125 can't compete in such a competition against someone on a GSXR ?
A bike is a bike after all - surely ?
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Posted: Tue May 13th, 2008 05:48 pm |
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I believe that bikes will be provided for some challenges. I shall check that out.
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Posted: Tue May 13th, 2008 06:17 pm |
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| Riding fast smoothly and safely is about vehicle control, observation and skill. and no-one could claim to be a great rider if they lack vehicle control. The fact is someone who is a great rider on a GSXR will also be a great rider on a CG125. The reverse does not necessarily follow.
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Posted: Tue May 13th, 2008 08:49 pm |
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AdrianS wrote: Riding fast smoothly and safely is about vehicle control, observation and skill.
And yet again, when writing in reference to good riding, the use of the word fast is almost obligatory.
Personally, I think the word fast, could be omitted from that sentence and it would lose none of it's relevance.
If someone you knew rode everywhere according to the applicable speed limit, would you consider that rider "fast" ?
Or maybe we're suggesting that to be a good rider you must brake the speed limit.
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Posted: Tue May 13th, 2008 09:42 pm |
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AdrianS wrote: Riding fast smoothly and safely is about vehicle control, observation and skill. and no-one could claim to be a great rider if they lack vehicle control. The fact is someone who is a great rider on a GSXR will also be a great rider on a CG125. The reverse does not necessarily follow.
Bollox.
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 07:36 am |
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I thought about it but I'd need dates of when it all takes place. I can't just up and drop stuff because Bike decide today is comp day. I need more details BIKE. Like when are the events happening? Which days? A vauge bertween these dates is not realy enough.
More info please?
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 08:06 am |
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No you're absolutely right devon and dog, so we can expect your entries then
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 09:27 am |
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What are the skills you have to show? U-Turn on a 5pence? 100m wheelie?
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 09:28 am |
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I won't be applying.
I don't think "I am the greatest" and I would be deeply embarrassed if anyone ever said I was, nor would I put myself up as being the "best"
If the competition is open to professionals? then give James Toseland top marks for being the fastest (or pick your favourite racer)
Give the senior IAM bloke the points for safest etc.
Any instructor is going to be better than any recreational motorcyclist, simply because of their mileage, "practice makes perfect", as my mum used to say.
Frankly I think it's one of the sillier ideas I have seen in the new look mag.
Bike believes it's market is predominantly sportsbike riders who like to read about the latest warp speed capable blade/gixxer/duke etc. I too expect the "speed" trails etc to dominate, not an article I shall bother with that much.
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 09:29 am |
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Batfastard wrote: I won't be applying.
I don't think "I am the greatest" and I would be deeply embarrassed if anyone ever said I was, nor would I put myself up as being the "best"
If the competition is open to professionals? then give James Toseland top marks for being the fastest (or pick your favourite racer)
Give the senior IAM bloke the points for safest etc.
Any instructor is going to be better than any recreational motorcyclist, simply because of their mileage, "practice makes perfect", as my mum used to say.
Frankly I think it's one of the sillier ideas I have seen in the new look mag.
Bike believes it's market is predominantly sportsbike riders who like to read about the latest warp speed capable blade/gixxer/duke etc. I too expect the "speed" trails etc to dominate, not an article I shall bother with that much.
Not necessarily.
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 09:37 am |
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karTER wrote: Batfastard wrote: I won't be applying.
I don't think "I am the greatest" and I would be deeply embarrassed if anyone ever said I was, nor would I put myself up as being the "best"
If the competition is open to professionals? then give James Toseland top marks for being the fastest (or pick your favourite racer)
Give the senior IAM bloke the points for safest etc.
Any instructor is going to be better than any recreational motorcyclist, simply because of their mileage, "practice makes perfect", as my mum used to say.
Frankly I think it's one of the sillier ideas I have seen in the new look mag.
Bike believes it's market is predominantly sportsbike riders who like to read about the latest warp speed capable blade/gixxer/duke etc. I too expect the "speed" trails etc to dominate, not an article I shall bother with that much.
Not necessarily.
Ok, perhaps "more likely to be", rather than "is"
At the end of the day, some will try, some will read, I shall not be one of them.
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 09:40 am |
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Batfastard wrote:
I won't be applying.
I don't think "I am the greatest" and I would be deeply embarrassed if anyone ever said I was, nor would I put myself up as being the "best"
-thats fine, some people just aren't very competitive. However the pick of Suzuki's 2008 model range is quite a prize.
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 09:40 am |
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Batfastard wrote: karTER wrote: Batfastard wrote: I won't be applying.
I don't think "I am the greatest" and I would be deeply embarrassed if anyone ever said I was, nor would I put myself up as being the "best"
If the competition is open to professionals? then give James Toseland top marks for being the fastest (or pick your favourite racer)
Give the senior IAM bloke the points for safest etc.
Any instructor is going to be better than any recreational motorcyclist, simply because of their mileage, "practice makes perfect", as my mum used to say.
Frankly I think it's one of the sillier ideas I have seen in the new look mag.
Bike believes it's market is predominantly sportsbike riders who like to read about the latest warp speed capable blade/gixxer/duke etc. I too expect the "speed" trails etc to dominate, not an article I shall bother with that much.
Not necessarily.
Ok, perhaps "more likely to be", rather than "is"
At the end of the day, some will try, some will read, I shall not be one of them.
Agree with that.
I would be tempted to enter just for a laugh but I've never ridden over 100mph so fast sections I'd suck at.
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 09:45 am |
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The competition is balanced to put equal importance on all areas - hence having a track test, low speed manouvering, an on road assessment by an advanced riding instructor and an off-road section.
You could be a banzai, captain here speed demon, but if you're dangerous, you'll be out on your arse.
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 09:49 am |
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AdrianS wrote: Riding fast smoothly and safely is about vehicle control, observation and skill. and no-one could claim to be a great rider if they lack vehicle control. The fact is someone who is a great rider on a GSXR will also be a great rider on a CG125. The reverse does not necessarily follow.
Reading this - I don't think a 125 rider could truthfully be unleashed on a 1000cc sportsbike, the following claim would probably bankrupt the mag, the step up is too great to risk.
BUT.
What an excellent test of precision and accuracy to put 1000cc riders on a 125 and see (after some instruction) who could get the most perfect lap around say Brands or Cadwell, where bravery (or stupidity depending on your viewpoint) wouldn't be a factor
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 09:52 am |
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KhalH wrote: The competition is balanced to put equal importance on all areas - hence having a track test, low speed manouvering, an on road assessment by an advanced riding instructor and an off-road section.
You could be a banzai, captain here speed demon, but if you're dangerous, you'll be out on your arse.
Trials or MotoX (at my age it used to be scrambling  )
Or playing with BMW's?
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 09:57 am |
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I like the way I'm young and stupid enough to think I have a chance.
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