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Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 07:29 pm |
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We all know that during the second world war, children (well boys really) ran around in the countryside in long shorts, played conkers, pretended to shoot enemy soldiers, and pored over sillouhettes of airoplanes so that if one flew over they could instantly see if it was a Lancaster bomber or a Stuka. I think there was the vague intention that if one crashed in a nearby field the local children would know whether to run and help the injured airman, or steal the German machine gun, install it in their secret camp in the woods, and then save the day when the right moment came.
Anyway the point is that an article showing a some basic tell tale signs for bike recognition would be cool. Basically, I sit behind bikes when filtering and always think that if I knew which bikes had a butterfly shape rear light and twin exhaust at ankle level on either side, then I would know whether I was behind a Honda CBF or Suzuki Bandit.
Equally when I look in my rear miror and see a big round headlight trying fry my leathers, should I be thinking BMW or Triumph?
Here are some very basic tell tale signs that I know:
Rear light, two vertical strips. SV650, or 1000. The thou has the second exhaust.
Two stubby exhausts pocking out under the seat. Fazer.
Four triangular exhausts round the seat area, VFR.
I know the Bandits single grab handle and upward sloping exhaust because I have one.
Umm, well it would work better with some pictures.
Of course there are no hard and fast rules, but a some tell tale hints wouldn't go amiss. Especilaly for the more popular bikes. If you want to really old school, you could publish rarer bikes and allocate them more points (2 points for an SV650, 12 points for a ... OK, inspiration fails me. Something rare, anyway. Then we could play eye spy.
I know its a bit basic, to you hoary old bikers that can spot a Street Tripple from its foot rest, but I think this would be good basic stuff to fill a few pages.
What do you think?
Anybody else got any good little rules or tips for spoting makes or models?
edited for over use of 'tell tale' in original post.
edited again for plane spotter pedantry 
Last edited on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 09:21 am by brox2
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Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 08:38 pm |
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Single pipe pointing towards the ground along with the number plate and a Union Flag on the tale pod is a CCM 
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Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 08:50 pm |
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Better still how about identifying bikes from their sound alone - I used to be able to distinguish between Triumph Bonneville 750, BSA 650 Lightning, Norton Commando etc by their sounds when accelerating along a nearby dual carraigeway - reckon we could do the same nowadays.
Perhaps I ought to get out more?
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Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 08:54 pm |
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Can you edit it again to correct 'Sopworth Camel' to 'Sopwith Camel' (or better yet, replace it with a 'plane that was in use during the Second War - the Sopwith was a First War aircraft) and change the spelling of 'Stukka' to 'Stuka' (assuming you mean the Junkers JU-87).
Sorry to be pedantic, but I still have my Aircraft Recognition Cards and an anorak is an anorak.
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Posted: Thu Jul 24th, 2008 03:16 am |
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I'm not sure about an article, but a top idea for a post.
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Posted: Thu Jul 24th, 2008 09:17 am |
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wizenedoldprune wrote: Better still how about identifying bikes from their sound alone - I used to be able to distinguish between Triumph Bonneville 750, BSA 650 Lightning, Norton Commando etc by their sounds when accelerating along a nearby dual carraigeway - reckon we could do the same nowadays.
Perhaps I ought to get out more?
This is a great talent, WOP.
Also a good idea for a radio show. Not sure about a magazine article ...
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Posted: Thu Jul 24th, 2008 09:21 am |
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PaulR wrote: Can you edit it again to correct 'Sopworth Camel' to 'Sopwith Camel' (or better yet, replace it with a 'plane that was in use during the Second War - the Sopwith was a First War aircraft) and change the spelling of 'Stukka' to 'Stuka' (assuming you mean the Junkers JU-87).
Sorry to be pedantic, but I still have my Aircraft Recognition Cards and an anorak is an anorak.
Now I think about it I only know the name 'Sopw*th Camel' from Baldrick saying it in Black Adder goes Forth, and that was indeed WW1. I didn't want to put Spitfire.
Would Lancaster Bomber do? Seems a bit of nasty named plane for those people living in Lancaster, btw.
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Posted: Thu Jul 24th, 2008 09:39 am |
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brox2 wrote: PaulR wrote: Can you edit it again to correct 'Sopworth Camel' to 'Sopwith Camel' (or better yet, replace it with a 'plane that was in use during the Second War - the Sopwith was a First War aircraft) and change the spelling of 'Stukka' to 'Stuka' (assuming you mean the Junkers JU-87).
Sorry to be pedantic, but I still have my Aircraft Recognition Cards and an anorak is an anorak.
Now I think about it I only know the name 'Sopw*th Camel' from Baldrick saying it in Black Adder goes Forth, and that was indeed WW1. I didn't want to put Spitfire.
Would Lancaster Bomber do? Seems a bit of nasty named plane for those people living in Lancaster, btw.
'Hawker Hurricane' would do nicely, if you dont want a bomber or a Spitfire.
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Posted: Thu Jul 24th, 2008 10:17 am |
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About 10 years ago (I was 10) I could recognise most bikes solely on the tail end design and position/shape of the exhaust.
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Posted: Thu Jul 24th, 2008 10:29 am |
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Posted: Thu Jul 24th, 2008 02:29 pm |
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Pussyhorse wrote: Baboon's arse = teapot.
Aye- one true fugly bike.
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Posted: Fri Jul 25th, 2008 10:11 pm |
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PaulR wrote: Can you edit it again to correct 'Sopworth Camel' to 'Sopwith Camel' (or better yet, replace it with a 'plane that was in use during the Second War - the Sopwith was a First War aircraft) and change the spelling of 'Stukka' to 'Stuka' (assuming you mean the Junkers JU-87).
Sorry to be pedantic, but I still have my Aircraft Recognition Cards and an anorak is an anorak.
Ahh ... Tommy Sopwith, now there was a feller !!! Did you see the interview on his 90th birthday ?
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Posted: Fri Jul 25th, 2008 10:12 pm |
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brox2 wrote: We all know that during the second world war, children (well boys really) ran around in the countryside in long shorts, played conkers, pretended to shoot enemy soldiers, and pored over sillouhettes of airoplanes so that if one flew over they could instantly see if it was a Lancaster bomber or a Stuka. I think there was the vague intention that if one crashed in a nearby field the local children would know whether to run and help the injured airman, or steal the German machine gun, install it in their secret camp in the woods, and then save the day when the right moment came.
Anyway the point is that an article showing a some basic tell tale signs for bike recognition would be cool. Basically, I sit behind bikes when filtering and always think that if I knew which bikes had a butterfly shape rear light and twin exhaust at ankle level on either side, then I would know whether I was behind a Honda CBF or Suzuki Bandit.
Equally when I look in my rear miror and see a big round headlight trying fry my leathers, should I be thinking BMW or Triumph?
Here are some very basic tell tale signs that I know:
Rear light, two vertical strips. SV650, or 1000. The thou has the second exhaust.
Two stubby exhausts pocking out under the seat. Fazer.
Four triangular exhausts round the seat area, VFR.
I know the Bandits single grab handle and upward sloping exhaust because I have one.
Umm, well it would work better with some pictures.
Of course there are no hard and fast rules, but a some tell tale hints wouldn't go amiss. Especilaly for the more popular bikes. If you want to really old school, you could publish rarer bikes and allocate them more points (2 points for an SV650, 12 points for a ... OK, inspiration fails me. Something rare, anyway. Then we could play eye spy.
I know its a bit basic, to you hoary old bikers that can spot a Street Tripple from its foot rest, but I think this would be good basic stuff to fill a few pages.
What do you think?
Anybody else got any good little rules or tips for spoting makes or models?
edited for over use of 'tell tale' in original post.
edited again for plane spotter pedantry
'ow many 'ave you slammed into the arse of, and had a really close look ?
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Posted: Sun Jul 27th, 2008 11:56 am |
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I 'aven't, yet.
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Posted: Mon Jul 28th, 2008 10:00 pm |
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Pussyhorse wrote: Baboon's arse = teapot.
eh?
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Posted: Tue Jul 29th, 2008 01:01 am |
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Yeah great post! I'm always riding along trying to figure out what went past, or on the odd occasion, what I went past.
Ducati, very distintive front light, kinda flat with a hammer head shark look.
999 is pretty easy. Easy to mix up Aprilia and SP1, SP2 with the head lights. the aprilias seem to have those kicked up exhaust cans as well.
As far as the jap 4 cylinder bikes go, I guess colour is about all you hope for there. The R1 front is flatter and the GSXR has that pointy nose cone.
Single sided swing arms are a big clue as well.
TLR have the big duck tail seat, hard to pick between a TLS and an SV650. Single pipe is a give away.
Great!
I reckon BIKE should compile one of those old eye-spy books from readers bikes and give it away with subscriptions! You know, 1 point for a bandit, 10 points for a Limited edition MV/Ducati/rare-as-rocking-horse-shit-bike.
Each one could have a little paragraph on model differences and key clues for identification.
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Posted: Wed Jul 30th, 2008 10:08 am |
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brox2 wrote: Pussyhorse wrote: Baboon's arse = teapot.
eh?
GSXF is a teapot
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Posted: Wed Jul 30th, 2008 07:42 pm |
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That GSXF is a great looking bike....well, 10 years ago anyway.
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Pussyhorse
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Posted: Wed Jul 30th, 2008 08:53 pm |
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tltourer wrote: That GSXF is a great looking bike....well, 10 years ago anyway.
Lay off the 'shrooms! The teapot was always a munter.
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Posted: Wed Jul 30th, 2008 08:57 pm |
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Mate, you have obviously never seen a honda CB200.
17 Hp, top speed 125 km/h, lying on the tank with left hand behind your back for stream lining.
Black jeans, white basket ball boots and a mullet.
What a package.
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